and to have marco rubio, who's a rising star within the party, who's an hispanic united states senator himself, somebody who is likely to run for president, be a formidable competitor at some point, that tells you that this is a priority that is likely very likely to overcome the resistance from some of the southern conservatives like jeff sessions and others. >> elise, what do you make of the senator's multiple appearances on the talk shows what's the take away for you. >> i know marco rubio wouldn't answer the question guilt 2016. but we have to put this to the test. this is a major test for marco rubio and his brand which is in some ways still having to define itself. we don't want to give amnesty to undocumented immigrants but at the same time we need to do something to overall this system. i think that's what he's doing, he's being very aggressive in his messaging. >> i would just add as a postscript, i well remember appearances by barack obama on sunday talk shows in 2006 and even earlier in 2007 when he said that, no, of course i'm not going to run for president. so i wouldn't -